Firstly, thanks for the comment Alice. I actually particularly like the writing style of Fast Food Nation – guess that’s just me. However there is no doubt about the superb writing abilities of Klein.
Do you know Wesley Willis? If you do, and you happen to be a bit of a fan, then you and I will get along just fine.
As for Subcomadante – I just can’t spell. And I think you will be greatly rewarded by joining up to the PR Watch list, I think it’s exceptional.
Now for you Jimmy – I guess being a filthy hippy gives you a filthy mouth!!
Jimmy, I’ve a couple of books that I’m happy to show you that tell us that our ancestors were carnivores. Just open any first year archaeology text on the origins of humans. I have a couple at home. Mind you we’re going back a few millennia here – probably up to 100,000 years ago. In fact, this argument helps you a bit. It was when we became omnivores that the human race began to flourish precisely because they diversified their diet. It made us stronger and better. Yes we’re omnivores – of course we are you nob. I never said otherwise.
I also never said that if I stopped eating meat then the meat industry would collapse. What I did say is that if EVERYONE stopped eating meat then the meat industry would collapse. I don’t think you can disagree with this and presumably this is what you ultimately desire and are therefore doing your bit so that you practice what you preach. And good on you for that – just take a shower once in a while.
Yes the meat industry is responsible for deforestation. You wank – that’s what I said. I’m arguing that this is a legitimate reason to not eat meat. Geeze! However, I stand by the fact that as a part of the ecosystem it is fine for humans to eat meat – possibly even necessary. And I don’t give a rats arse about nutrition – that’s why I eat so much meat. Yes we (westerners) eat too much meat, are wasteful of it and should farm differently and cut down fewer trees. I really don’t see how your argument is different to mine.
And dude, if you need to crush a watermelon with your colon, go right ahead. Just as long as I don’t have to watch you lube the mother fucker up and insert it.
There’s something I don’t like or trust about 100%ers (ie Vegans). I think 90-95% is a good level, and I’m not saying I’m a 90%er either. Firstly, it leads to a holier than thou attitude where everyone is just so shit and you end up a bitter and twisted person who has forgotten the true motivation for their convictions and secondly they tend to bounce back the other way and become right wingers like Bolt – or worse, Windschuttle. Not having a go at you personally here Jimmy – unless you want me to.
Now Orland (or should I say baldy). Yes Jello eats meat and a lot of people hate him for it. I love him for it though. I must say I like your point. There is a “nature” (as opposed to nurture) part of my argument. No doubt a contradiction, no doubt I was just starting shit and didn’t even think about it. However, I argue the nurture line when we are talking about humans, not biodiversity. I think it would be fair to say that I am arguing that on a biodiversity level I think that it is important for humans – as a species – to eat meat. Jimmy was obviously dropped on his head as a child and is all screwed up inside so doesn’t eat meat. Make sense? That’s why Hindus don’t eat cow and Jews don’t eat Pig – socialisation (or religion, same diff). Me, I eat most things (ordinarily – except fruit, really just don’t dig on fruit).
Tim, you’re just wonderful and I want you to know that you’re on the highly elite A Team – No Vegans allowed.
So eat less meat, be more sustainable, love your bother and have sex with more people (sorry, different agenda).